Americana(Part 1): When American Wrestling met Brazilian Jiu Jitsu – Bob Anderson vs. Rolls Gracie

[Music] my name is Bob Anderson and I'm a national champion wrestler in all three styles Greco freestyle and [ __ ] and I was an Olympic coach Pan American Games coach and World Cup coach [Music] [Applause] add my surfboard with me because I heard there was good surf and everything and I'm trying to get through customs and I can't get out because I don't have anybody to pick me up I don't have a place to go and and I'm waiting for this governing body leader from wrestling to show up and pick me out two hours pass and nobody comes that picked up by Carlson and Poulos Gracie said that they were the governing body representatives for wrestling which they weren't actually I think they had a rift between each other and so I went with him and I said what took you guys so long well we had some other things training to do and so that's why I said okay then I went on and stay there at his house and then he'd get me up and we'd go to a practice but I'm coming in and I've done samba I was Pan American Games champion in that and so he had guys with long pants and jackets on and it looked like judo and I so I thought that was kind of strange but I said well maybe they do both and they're trying to learn wrestling after about three days I'm going these guys are always wearing jackets how come they don't get into wrestling attire and he says well we we do both we do jiu-jitsu and we want to get trained well enough so that we can make the Panama games team and do well and I said okay that makes sense I mean I was sent down there by the governing body of the Fela to help develop wrestling in that country he would he's kind of like a Renaissance guy I think he would take things from different sports and apply them into his jiu-jitsu which I thought was very good there's a lot of jiu-jitsu guys just only jiu-jitsu stuff and they don't break out of that he did well some people don't realize that the Americana was really named after me and that American wrestlers and up into the 50s in college had submission wrestling and when I was training in 1968 going to LA why these old guys would come up to me and asked me if I'd roll around with them and just out of respect cuz you know they're older guys and so anyway one of them did a keylock on me and then another one did something else and was hurting me and I said is that's not legal it he says it used to be sunny so when I went to Brazil I remember the key lock and and how to make it painful and we adjusted a little bit and like taught to Gracie's that on one time because a holistic Smee to show that if the guy did this what would you do and he was always brainstorming and we came up with the key lock and bringing it in and became the Americana named after the American West Liffe that came down and showed them techniques we joked around and had funds his wife Angela I'd always tease him like athletes tease each other I said well I don't know if you could be a wrestler you know you're kind of small to be a wrestler and I'd say stuff like that in front of her and she gets so upset that I didn't respect him because he was at the time and I didn't know it the toughest guy in Brazil he had actually they showed me a picture a video of a video a super heat camera shot of him and his ten students going against this guy about and his ten students in karate and then jujitsu and how all of his students submitted every one of the karate guys and then he went against this guy about really buffed about six one 240 240 pounds and submitted him in about 30 seconds so just to prove that jiu-jitsu was better than karate and so that was pretty impressive to me we went to a soccer game he wanted to go really bad and I remember him we were late as he got off work late because he was a cop part two and so we're driving down the sidewalk in Brazil and and lucky there was hardly anybody on the street but we're driving down the sidewalk didn't past all these cards that are going to this big soccer match and then finally we pulls onto the freeway and then he parks the car right in the Ostrom to get there and we walk down he goes behind the gate flashes his badge talks to these guys and the place is completely full but they let us in and we ended up watching the game sitting on the stairways of the soccer they I'll never forget that that was quite a trip with him we became friends really within about a few days I really liked the guy his personality his attitude of openness to learn technique and he was just a nice a super guy just a few days before I was ready to leave olice decided that he wanted to have a match we had a match we started off and we had jackets on and we fought for 30 minutes yeah but the problem was I wanted to start on my feet and he said no way he said I'm certain down here you get on top of me in the guard man I go what the garden he says yeah that's the first day I ever seen it so get on top of them and I think I'm gonna just you know Russell to things he's dominating the top position well I soon wondering that wasn't the case but we fought and we fought and we fought for position for arms for chokes for arm bars for figure fours and we broke fought each other until I was just sweating and really hot and so I said wait a minute wait a minute let's just stop this right now I said and take off these jackets and fight like real men without a jacket referring to wrestling so then I did so he's it okay no problem and I said I stood up there and he goes no no get back into the guard get on top so I got back into the guard and we went at least another 25 minutes finally caught me in a heel hook and you know had it pretty tight so I just tapped out and it was a good move and but I was a little disappointed I got caught in it so I act to him before I was leaving I said once you come up to California visit me at my house bring your wife and your son Eagle arm there's a Pan American Games let me see if I can get you in the pan games in samba its along with the World Championship in Greco in freestyle called me back up said he's coming came up picked him up stayed at her house for a while we went down to San Diego we tuned up at a national ymc Championship which he submitted everybody I won and then we went into the pen of Merton Games I had to really talk some people and they'll let him in because he didn't have the official paperwork but he got in and he wanted and he looked great and that was I think the first really showed Brazilian Jujitsu in America that medals right here we had a problem with the governing body they were fighting and for control and we couldn't get the medals for a while and then he passed away sadly doing in a hand gliding accident and so it was I couldn't get it to him then I lost contact with his family and here it is this is the middle it's got his name on it and he's the champion and I'd really like to get it to his family is sunny eagle or something have a little a little small presentation of and honor the man he was not only a great innovator but it was a great loss to jiu-jitsu when Poulos Gracie passed away on that on that hand glider it was terrible I I lost all heart I just went back into wrestling [Music] you

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