do you think you would take up jiu-jitsu
in your 40s if you had been introduced to something else in your 20s like Muay
Thai boxing etc I'm struggling with jujitsu I respect the hell out out of it
I have an easier time with boxing and kickboxing I'm just like I have an
easier time with these things yeah yeah yeah so that's what I'm gonna focus on
yeah giving your most recent admission that you're you are boring obviously
you're not because of your popularity do you think you'd pick it up later in life
Jiu Jitsu to me is the chor boxing kickboxing is
fun I think because in my youth I figured out how to move my body in that
way I'm 43 by the way so first of all do I think I would go to jujitsu or start
jujitsu or get into jujitsu in my 40s if I hadn't if I had been yes absolutely
understand the power of jujitsu is very real the real thing
and once I recognized it I wanted to have that power the power to choke
people arm lock them dominate win like win with no mercy now what what's
interesting about this is there's certain people like certain things right
and he even says like I have an easier time with kickboxing and boxing cuz he's
be part of that's cuz he's done it for a long time since it's 20 so this just
easy for him and it like jiu-jitsu seems like a chore for him because you know
what else he's getting beat up you know if he doesn't just get into it now he's
getting beat up he's getting yeah that's a chore man it's hard it's hard on the
ego yeah yeah I thought of an interesting rule if you don't like
jiu-jitsu if you don't think you liked you maybe you what do you think of this
rule if you don't think you like jiu-jitsu take it and I'll try to think
could take it for six months take it for three months and I said take it until
you legitimately submit someone that is comparable in some way to you yeah you
think that's a good rule I think that's a good rule yeah yeah because I'm not
talking about you you tapped someone out that's weak and small or weaker
than you and smaller than you and then you like see I can tap mine I'm gonna
quit now no I'm talking about someone that's equivalent to someone that has
some comparable like physical attributes to you because I believe that once
somebody gets the taste of the pain and also this if this also implies or if
actually if you train enough that you submit someone that means you got
submitted Oh thousand probably five hundred times you
think that's a good number I bet if you by the time you submit one
someone in jujitsu you've probably been submitted five hundred times
okay 410 three hundred times three hundred times yeah yeah if you go to a
jiu-jitsu Academy as a white belt is zero training yeah yeah you're gonna get
submitted four times five times six times a class mm-hmm right
well it just depends if there's other white belts that that are first second
third 450 first month so you could know yeah you could depend being submitted
yeah oh yeah it's for 300 it's two hundred times it's definitely more than
one hundred but I wouldn't say be here attempt on a hundred times in a week
wait before you it was before we talk about anybody yes yeah that that's gonna
depend if you have other white belt in first day guys let's say you've yeah of
course you know you've been training for three weeks you can tap out something
that hasn't been trained again yeah yeah that's that's how fast you can learn
jujitsu yeah when I for the first moves that I learned I didn't I probably knew
like a month's worth of jujitsu but no one could hang with me because I knew
like the basic start and no one even knew what to do yeah yeah consider a
rear naked choke all you have to do is you can learn the rear naked choke one
day in the beginning of class and all you have to figure out when you roll if
a guy doesn't have much experience all you have to figure out is how to get on
his back it's all you got it's really cool when you teach kids jujitsu like
you can say something like you could give them the class on how to pass the
guard Yeah right and they would start to do what you told them to do or you could
say okay your goal is to get out of their legs and get around and they'll
figure out how to do it yeah and it's pretty awesome yeah and then what you do
is you give a couple little pointers yeah
because their instincts will be a little bit off but you came a couple little
pointers a couple things to work with and then they'll develop those into some
really cool yeah it's and I don't know if I said this before but that even is
true not as much but it's still true with
adults yeah it's because if you teach them the technique first and then then
you say hey those techniques I taught you that's passing the garden and it
doesn't it's way easier to like get it's almost like getting a big piece of clay
and being like okay make the head make the body make the arms that's it and
then me like okay now you've got the arms that's cool now I'll make the
fingers now I make the you know and then start to go with the details there as
far as the technical techniques with like passing the guard but I that's how
actually that's how I learned from Dean where he would teach stuff but I would
just see him like getting passed and I know okay when he gets passed you that's
like hard to get out of so that's what I wanted to try to do and when guys would
get that affirmative yeah so it it I thought I thought that it really worked
better that way too just to teach that way if someone's starting from zero yeah
because it's hard to put into context when you don't know anything you're like
yeah I'm doing this cool like pretty cool me it's fun doing the intro class
at the muster cuz you have a lot of people that have never done jujitsu yeah
yeah yeah and we that's that like how and how you're saying to teach is
exactly how we teach meals like hey this is the concept and then we teach a
couple little moves of like what to do there and then you watch people get
after it and they do get better it's pretty cool yeah but yes here the the
reason for this this goes for anything by the way if you are successful
especially if they're all if they're kind of similar like in this case where
he's like okay martial arts right jiu-jitsu I'm gonna start jiu-jitsu way
late meanwhile I have experience doing Muay Thai boxing so if he has experience
assuming he's been somewhat successful not necessarily in competition but not
not competition just so he knows what he's doing when he throws a punch he can
have a level of success of that punch landing you know like and it's gonna be
pretty often if he has 20 years experience ki particular so he's
experiencing little little micro successes when he jumps in the boxing
situation on wait time and jiu-jitsu is getting failures all day all day it's a
huge chore and that's like so if you look if you're if you're
going in with nothing you have no micro the you know successes
no nothing you're just going in I don't train anything I go in sure I'll take
some hits I'll take some failures because I'm learning this new thing but
if you have it compared to look I'm gonna come into victory MMA I'm gonna
see the kickboxing situation going on say you Jitsu situation going on
my brain is automatically gonna be like okay what's gonna be the best experience
for me right micro victories I'm gonna go where the victories are I'm gonna go
where the payoff is you know those payoffs where I can land punches I can
do it I can know what I'm doing dang when I move my body it does what I want
it to do and it yields success yeah it's effective or I can go to jiu-jitsu and
where everyone else has success everyone else is getting their payoff not me by
the way everyone else is I'm getting tapped out and that Park in and of
itself is like that's it especially if your guidance is it a personality thing
where some people as soon as they get as soon as they get tapped in jujitsu or
like oh my god I need to learn this immediately like you know when you young
people get the jujitsu bug yeah sure yeah everyone that's the jujitsu bug
right not everyone a lot of people do well
what percentage of people get the jujitsu book 20% 30% depends like 20% of
who of all-star human being yeah it's probably not even 20% yeah think about
it it's weird as much as there's there is
jiu-jitsu as much as we talk about it in a very positive way people normal people
have a hard time with it it's weird for me to admit that it's weird for me to
say that be but if I think about it I've talked about this before like of all the
people that I've introduced to Jesus ooh over the years mm-hmm
I would I think I have like maybe four black belts of people that I fully like
they started you did too because of me I'm talking so that with those
percentages it's very very small people that actually stick with it get the bug
yeah and but you and you can get the bug and the bug kind of wear off you know
how that is where you know I I remember then that's not the bug that's not the
real bug that's like the diet some bug light because people gets
purple belt and then they don't show up anymore because that roundup they don't
show people who Belton they don't show up anymore yeah yeah just just and
there's people get off keep training yeah
basket bug that's yeah go bug yeah fully I you think like when you dream about it
you know like you dream you'll learn live and you'll dream up it'll just kind
of be a new thing in your mind you know content in the subconscious I thought
that that was kind of it but in my experience that that goes away sometime
it depends on what you're into mmm but I don't know yeah but nonetheless he
that's it that's what I think cuz that's pretty common like yes there
sure in this was like an actual advice yeah like you think you yeah I was there
so my answers are yes I would have done jiu-jitsu because I would have had the
bug and my advice is if it's a chore keep doing it now it's fun yeah it is
fun to get beat it's fun to get like it's fun it's it's fun to have like my
favorite people to train with other people that gave me the hardest runs
yeah and I might absolute most favorite people to train with other people I
actually can get me you know but it's again we you have to have this there's
this third factor here where the kickboxing and boxing is right there I
could be right there right now and in winning you know just doing it and but
I'm not I'm over here in this guy's mounted on me and in he's yeah he's
choking me and stuff like it's man it's I dig it man
it makes her I guess we could reverse this question say like okay Jacqueline
when why why aren't you in boxing and striking all the time for me that's a
pretty it's actually not that hard of an answer I've done boxing and striking and
the thing that is different is in boxing and striking even though you're talking
about micro wins most of the nights of training boxing or kickboxing they're
the micro wins are against pads in a bag yeah right because you're not sparring
every night and if you are sparring every night you're making a mistake
yeah and you're not even going as hard and you're not comparatively yeah yeah I
mean you can have fun we do that too like we call it playing
tag where you're like you're like touching the person you're it's almost
like a slap fight you know but you can't do that ever you can't spar every night
and you should inspire every night if you are sparring every night you're
wrong but you can roll every night yeah you can get mmm but you can get full
victories not micro victories full submissions yeah you know yeah yeah and
I agree and I think that if you did say it really depends on who you are but to
me that was the the big time appeal and still is the the legitimate appeal of
jiu-jitsu where you know like people even now they'll be like hey but this
martial arts is superior because this and that but really just kind of being
tested the best because you're going against us introduce people speak enemy
enemy quote unquote enemy yes it sounds funny when people are like how would you
ever get someone's arm there they're like oh yeah you get the good eat that
arm lock try that on me it's like okay cool yeah was I just reading about but
didn't um Gordon Ryan just beat somebody he like
called it yeah he called it middle more seven yeah he was like I'm gonna beat
you with this and he did it within this amount of time did it that's by the way
it yeah and that's how it is man and that's against a high level guy will go
drains obviously one of the best guys right now um but that that is kind of
how did you do is you know unless it's like so that's huge giant like football
player just spazzing and writing away the whole time if you're someone
engaging you that's kind of how it is where you're like oh I can choke if they
don't know dude it's and you know yeah yeah yeah oh yeah for sure
they're like just get my arm there but and Ryan did not do that to someone that
didn't know jujitsu I know holy and that's the funny because that's those
those are the Hixton stories you know like Hickson would be like I'm gonna
every all of you 14 black belts I'm gonna arm lock your left arm all of you
and he'd do it all of them black belts yeah yeah that the you heard those
stories right yeah I rolled with Hickson I've talked about that before yeah Hicks
is really good at jujitsu yeah but yes but not uno though so
what'd he do though like what what do you know no no my advice is a like I
said that's why I think my new rule is train until you submit someone that is
legitimately comparable to you and then if you don't like it still then don't
train like I there was one guy on social media that like kept coming back to me
like I know I hate jiu-jitsu yeah I hate it I hate it I was like after a while
I'm like okay can you defend yourself against you know a takedown can you get
up from the bottom okay didn't go find something else to do and quit
complaining to me about it like everyone has not been for jiu-jitsu I get it yeah
fine yeah but it still is beneficial though
feels like it is for that's what it feels like that's what I'm saying that's
what feels like to you and Mia and to the people that we hang out with and
that's why when I was saying like some people don't like jiu-jitsu it's really
weird for me yeah to understand that I have a hard time with their perspective
yeah I mean that's mr.
Mr. understand their perspective tell me like I don't
like to did so it's like a why why would you not like it
glad you don't like it makes life easier for me one person I'll have to worry
about being able to choke me I would say this try this if you're in this
situation this is what I would do try to forget about but like when you're like
okay I'm gonna go jiu-jitsu tonight forget about boxing as a concept forget
about kickbox forget about it like don't don't think about that you're like your
whole thing right now is like it's just jiu-jitsu and learn or think of it as
like just this complete learning experience of course but forget about
the boxing because anytime like that's how that's what's gonna happen when you
keep that boxing on your mind or they keep boxing on your mind you're like why
am i doing this when I could be doing boxing which is like badass anyway you
know kind of thing but just forget about it yeah I think that's the thing you
know how like guys in the UFC that'll that'll happen sometimes where they're
super good at jiu-jitsu and then the trained boxing yeah and it's vice-versa
– yeah yeah yeah like I was just saying like some people and and this is true
with fighters some fighters don't like striking they don't like to get hit
specifically no one Minds punching people some people like it
some people like they truly like to punch someone else in the head some
people are good with it most people are good with it cuz it feels good
some people don't like to get hit they really don't like that some people don't
like to get smashed on the ground they get claustrophobic right they don't like
that and so different people have a little
different I don't have calm weaknesses but preferences yeah and you can see
that very clearly especially in the earlier ufc's nowadays you're not
getting the UFC if you're super uncomfortable in in any arena of martial
arts yeah if you're just if you're just super uncomfortable stand up you you
know maybe you might make an undercard barely but you don't see that oh yeah
sure I like that rule until you tap someone oh yeah like legit
yeah comparable to you because what I think happens once you do that you're
like yeah yeah and you got the benefit of getting tapped out which is a bat
which to me motivates me more than just tapping someone out yeah how did someone
control me think about that another human being can control me completely
yeah Dean does that to me sometimes I'm sitting here thinking to myself I'm like
man I've been training for a really long time and I'm a grown man yeah in good
physical condition relatively strong and he can hold me in a position where I
cannot do anything and I can actually do that to him to not as clearly not as
often yeah but like we he's got he's got three positions he can do it to me and I
think he can cross side-mount and on all fours right oh if I'm in one
of those positions or he's one of those positions on me yeah I'm doomed a deal
for me it's only I don't have mountain on him but his Mount Escape is awesome
and my mounts not really good so he's he can get out of that so it's no big deal
but cross-eyed or when he's on all fours I'm gonna torture him and we both know
we're gonna get tortured in those positions for him it's too pitiful for
him me there's two positions he's gonna get tortured him for me there's three
positions I'm gonna get tortured and tortured yeah tortured yes sir you've
seen it yeah yeah torture yeah you felt it too all both examples except amount
like in escape mode you have good oh yeah no man
yeah yeah thank you escape notice but yeah no that's bad I dig it
that isn't that weird oh you have you know 25 over 25 years experience train
very strong and big by the way like compared to like a normal jiu-jitsu guy
like you're a big Europe thing this huge plain jiu-jitsu player and big strong
experience know what to do know what not to do all that doesn't mean anything
gets for that moment doesn't mean nothing yeah
holy cow yeah that scary thing yeah
